Tool RPGM DazedMTLTool - A tool that provides quality MTL translations using ChatGPT

T-Block127

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What am I doing wrong if I get this error?

Error code: 404 - {'error': {'message': 'The model `gpt-4-1106-preview` does not exist or you do not have access to it.', 'type': 'invalid_request_error', 'param': None, 'code': 'model_not_found'}}
 

ufjoif

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Jan 6, 2019
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Not sure I understand. The estimate is based on dollars and is calculated by going through the files and counting all the tokens using OpenAI's tokenizer. I have to guess what the output is going to be so its not 100% accurate, but generally the estimate is always around 20% higher than what the actual cost will be.
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What, exactly, does 0.002 represent? I find that when I do translations using the latest model, GPT-3.5-turbo-0125, my prices are enormously lower than the estimate - around 10% of the given estimate. I notice that you use a different model spec in your default ENV config - that may cost more than the latest one. The newer models are better and cheaper. Anyway, the OpenAI pricing page lists prices in dollars per million tokens - I'd like to update the pricing estimate to be closer to the actual value I'm using.

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Those two spikes represent two full passes of the game I was working on translating, plus additional passes. The cost estimate was $11 per pass, but as you can see, the actual cost was enormously lower.

Are you actually just using the old, expensive model? You could be spending 90% less money.
 
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jaden_yuki

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how does this tool deal with CSVs? does it receive only one file? or a folder with multiple files?
 

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What, exactly, does 0.002 represent? I find that when I do translations using the latest model, GPT-3.5-turbo-0125, my prices are enormously lower than the estimate - around 10% of the given estimate. I notice that you use a different model spec in your default ENV config - that may cost more than the latest one. The newer models are better and cheaper. Anyway, the OpenAI pricing page lists prices in dollars per million tokens - I'd like to update the pricing estimate to be closer to the actual value I'm using.

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Those two spikes represent two full passes of the game I was working on translating, plus additional passes. The cost estimate was $11 per pass, but as you can see, the actual cost was enormously lower.

Are you actually just using the old, expensive model? You could be spending 90% less money.
The 0.002 is the cents per token. It might be out of date I don't use 3.5 anymore.

I'm using GPT-4-Turbo which is 0.01 and 0.03 per token. Since the estimate doesn't account for requests that fail, it multiplies the entire cost of each request by 2. That's why the estimate is always higher than the actual cost.

The estimate is essentially a worst case scenario cost analysis. Basically if you are going to invest in a game, it tells you the max it can potentially cost. But often the actual costs are lower because not every requests is going to fail obviously. The whole purpose is to make sure you know exactly how much you are going to likely spend.
 

ufjoif

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Jan 6, 2019
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The 0.002 is the cents per token. It might be out of date I don't use 3.5 anymore.

I'm using GPT-4-Turbo which is 0.01 and 0.03 per token. Since the estimate doesn't account for requests that fail, it multiplies the entire cost of each request by 2. That's why the estimate is always higher than the actual cost.

The estimate is essentially a worst case scenario cost analysis. Basically if you are going to invest in a game, it tells you the max it can potentially cost. But often the actual costs are lower because not every requests is going to fail obviously. The whole purpose is to make sure you know exactly how much you are going to likely spend.
Consider trying 3.5-turbo-0125. It's pretty good.
 
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Just got a message from GPT.


"Hi there,

We launched GPT-4o in the API—our new flagship model that’s as smart as GPT-4 Turbo and much more efficient. We’re passing on the benefits of the model’s efficiencies to developers, including:

  • 50% lower . GPT-4o is 50% cheaper than GPT-4 Turbo, across both input tokens ($5 per 1 million tokens) and output tokens ($15 per 1 million tokens).
  • 2x faster latency. GPT-4o is 2x faster than GPT-4 Turbo.
  • 5x higher . Over the coming weeks, GPT-4o will ramp to 5x those of GPT-4 Turbo—up to 10 million tokens per minute for developers with high usage."
Let's hope this will bring your translations to the next level of quality and availability.
 

revyfan

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Jan 26, 2018
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Whelp, it's official, OpenAI has done it again. Absolute amazing model for translations for the price. I don't even understand how they did it.

COMPARISON TIME:

Welcome back to my dumb ramblings for the mentally ill (Me)!

Today I asked GPT4-turbo and GPT4o to translate a paragraph using the same presets and context. As you could possibly imagine, GPT4-Turbo did good!
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Now using less money and being twice as fast, I was expecting 4o to be either the same or slightly lower quality, but!
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Honestly, other than the very obvious contextual change between the two near the end, it's mostly the same BUT the fact the 4o somehow got the context right (The boy being raped by the hatched insects) despite almost every other model I tested with this same paragraph getting it wrong (Opus, I believe got it right, but it costs too much money to really care) it fucking amazes me. We are absolutely living in the future, and I can't wait to see how other companies respond to such a good leap between quality and pricing!

Here's the original text for anyone who want's to give it a whirl

Xラクガキ インセクト女王


遊戯王のラクガキ


世界でカードに力が宿り精霊カードが出現するようになった。友達は霊使いやBMGなど美少女モンスターが出現しイチャイチャして貰えて羨ましがってた少年。そんな彼の元に出て来たのはインセクト女王である…
そのデカさと悍ましさにビビってしまった少年…しかしインセクト女王はマスターである少年に発情し少年の命令も聞かずに無理矢理交尾。
童貞を奪われた少年に襲いかかる恐怖と快楽…そのまま蟲の膣内で果ててしまう…女王はマスターに愛されたと解釈して何度も何度も巨大なお腹をピストンし少年を犯し続けた。


その後、インセクト女王は卵を産み孵化した自分の子でもあるインセクトモンスターにも容赦なく犯される…身も心も犯され女王のツガイとなった少年はインセクト女王達と共に姿を消したと言う。